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Notes: Sutliff's match for the discontinued Flying Dutchman blend.
Brand | Sutliff Tobacco Company |
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Blended By | Carl McCallister |
Manufactured By | Sutliff Tobacco Company |
Blend Type | Aromatic |
Contents | Black Cavendish, Burley, Cavendish, Virginia |
Flavoring | Other / Misc |
Cut | Ribbon |
Packaging | Bulk |
Country | US |
Production | Currently available |
Where to Buy |
TobaccoPipes.com Cup O' Joes SmokingPipes.com |
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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JimInks (3019) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mild to Medium | Medium | Mild to Medium | Pleasant |
In the Match, there’s a mellow vanilla topping that compliments the mild licorice essence. They are the star flavors, though they don’t totally drown out the varietals. The Virginia cavendish offers some hay/grass, and slight tart and tangy citrus as the lead component. The burley is slightly nutty, woody and earthy with a touch of molasses as a supporting player. The sugary black cavendish is barely a condiment. Because this is a Dutch-style blend, there’s a lightly persistent herbal spice note from start to finish. A sipping blend that may need a little dry time, but provides a very consistent taste. The strength is just past the center of mild to medium. The taste is a slot past that mark. Has little nicotine. Leaves little moisture in the bowl, and requires an average number of relights. Has an lightly lingering after taste, and room note. Can be an all day smoke.
In comparing this to the 1970s version of the original, I find the Match to be superior. The original was shag cut and packaged dry, so it tended to burn hot and bite worse than virtually any blend I have ever tried. Not even hydration could stave off the bite, though it did enhance the herbalness from the grassy, tart citrusy Virginia. The nutty, woody, earthy burley was a supporting player, but more obvious in the original as was the Virginia. Barely had any sugary black cavendish. The Match is ribbon cut and not dry, does not bite, has more depth of similar flavors with a sweeter topping, is less spicy and herbal, and a vastly smoother, richer smoke. I gave the original one star.
-JimInks
16 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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Talltree (31) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Very Mild | Very Mild | Mild | Pleasant |
The original Flying Dutchman was very disappointing. I was in college in the 1960s and used to buy it at the drugstore. I remember that the flavor, tin note, and smoke aroma was terrific, but it also really scorched my mouth. The flavor wasn't worth the pain and I gave up on it. Gave it 1 star.
This match blend, on the other hand, is mild and does not burn the mouth at all. The nic hit is vey mild. I can't remember what the original tasted like so I can't really make a comparison. The bag note is faintly herbal. The flavor is faintly vanilla but does not mask the tobacco. The tobacco seems to be pretty good quality.
I dry it for a while and this helps to make it a very tasty smoke. The funny thing is - and maybe this is just me - but when sipped (and fairly dry) this stuff can be very sublime (nearly a four star tobacco). Makes me want to know what the topping is. Three solid stars. It's going into my rotation.
Pipe Used: corn cob
Age When Smoked: after drying for 2 days, right out of the bag
Purchased From: pipesandcigars.com, in bulk
11 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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Fred T (67) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Medium | Medium | Mild to Medium | Pleasant |
I used to smoke the original Flying Dutchman 45 years ago in college. Back then you could smoke in the classroom. It had a great aroma and the girls loved it. ( I needed all the help I could get.). And, with a pipe in hand, you looked like an intellectual. So, you could go around pontificating about stuff you really knew nothing about. (An added plus.) Mostly, existentialism and Jean-Paul Sarte. I never read anything by him, and could really care less. But everyone seemed to get off on it. Then, the hippies came along, and here we are today, aged hippies, smoking a pipe, just like dad did. This match really isn't a match. It's a very nice smoking tobacco. I give it 3 stars.
Pipe Used: Kent Rasmussen
Age When Smoked: New
Purchased From: Cup O' Joes
10 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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JustMe (4) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mild to Medium | Mild to Medium | Mild to Medium | Pleasant |
Other reviewers have covered the blend components well. Flying Dutchman was one of my favorites in the 60’s and early 70’s. Then Niemeyer seemed to have changed something and turned it into tasteless napalm. The Sutliff recipe is very good; and does not bite like the old Dutchman blend even in it’s good days. This is a very good smoking blend.
Pipe Used: Nording Freehand
Age When Smoked: Newly Purchased
Purchased From: Cup O Joe’s
Similar Blends: The blend stands on it’s own. Very distinct and different..
6 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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HabaneroHardy (395) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mild | Mild | Mild | Very Pleasant |
I was feeling nostalgic and bought the Sutliff Match Flying Dutchman the other day and have been smoking it for the past few days and really like it. I have a 10 oz tin of the original that I bought between 1998-2000 but could only smoke a few ounces before giving it up because it burned my mouth like you would not believe. This tobacco has very little bite, nice aroma though I really have no clue what it is, maybe a little vanilla and other flavoring added. I smoked some of my original yesterday and this match really is pretty darn close, my hat is off to the blender on this one.
Pipe Used: Meerschaum
Age When Smoked: New
Similar Blends: Flying Dutchman.
6 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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Emeritus Account (30124) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mild to Medium | Mild to Medium | Mild to Medium | Pleasant |
I never tried the original but If it was anything like the match version I think I would have enjoyed it. It came at a nice moisture level and the pouch note was sweet but subdued. The attractive mahogany course ribbon cut packed easily and stayed lit throughout. Nutty sweet without any bite. The burley is at the forefront with the Virginias adding a base of natural sweetness. Nic level was mild to moderate. Can be smoked all day like most all OTC style blends.
6 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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oldermanpipe (25) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mild to Medium | Mild | Mild to Medium | Pleasant |
Ya' know...this stuff ain't bad. Of course, it's not cool to mess with old men. And that is sort of what this tobacco does, to some extent.
Ah. The history. I first smoked the original Flying Dutchman as a college Freshman in 1971. The popular alternatives then (if guys were to take up the pipe, which was practically required) were Borkum Riff Bourbon, and Cherry Blend. YECH!!! But Frying (not a typo) Dutchman smelled better than either of them...and bit far worse. But, man, did it ever smell GREAT!!! Don't know how it smelled to anyone else...but it sure smelled wonderful to me!
Truth be told, no matter how much I enjoyed the fragrance of my own pipe, had I not discovered Sir Walter and Balkan Sobranie, I'd have stuck with Viceroys and Marsh Wheeling Virginians.
This Match from Sutliff is far, far smoother than the original, and captures more than a bit of the side-stream aroma. NOTICE TO SUTLIFF....add a small bit of Orientals, including Latakia, and you'll have a winner.
Nobody can create an exact match. But the folks in Richmond are close...very close.
Pipe Used: GBD, Missouri Meershaum
Age When Smoked: Fresh
5 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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Capt (339) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mild to Medium | Mild | Mild to Medium | Pleasant |
In the 60's-70's (before I was alive) my dad said he smoked Union leader mixed with a bit of Flying Dutchman. The original was a thin shag cut, and I remember him saying he would cut it into small bits and mix it in.
I tried the original FD before it disappeared. It was horrid. It was hot, airy, acrid and tasted like hot cardboard.
Pouch appearance is a nice, evenly distributed array of tobacco. Evenly cut, with terrific moisture on arrival. Notes of mild cocoa, vanilla, slight licorice and that signature OTC burley scent.
Packs and lights very well. Initial notes of slight cocoa and vanilla. Natural burley flavors really shine here, which has a touch of nuttiness. A little sweet nougat when sipped slowly. I'm not tasting any licorice here like some state, but there is a slight unknown herbal finish on the palate. This is an excellent all day blend that doesn't bite the tongue like the original and has so much more flavor. Solid 3.5 stars!!!!
Pipe Used: Dr Grabow Crown Duke (my dad's)
Age When Smoked: 1 month
Purchased From: pipesandcigars.com
4 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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StevieB (2075) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Medium | Mild to Medium | Medium | Pleasant |
Sutliff Tobacco Company - Match Flying Dutchman.
It's quite a chunky ribbon, mainly medium brown but there's a fair few light and dark specks; more yellow ones than any others. The moisture's good.
The smoke isn't offensive, but a little messy. The topping, although not too strong, has a slightly herb-like quality that doesn't appeal to me. When first lit it isn't too notable, but after five minutes it comes through and strengthens over a bowl. Behind the topping, the tobaccos taste quite nice, not great, but they rescue it from a complete 'write-off' rating! Something that tempts me back toward a rubbish rating is the speed of burn: fast. That, and the heat being a little too much make me settle on two stars.
Nicotine: medium. Room-note: pleasant enough.
Somewhat recommended.
Pipe Used: Altinok Lee Van Cleef; Friday pipe
Age When Smoked: Three weeks
Purchased From: Cup O' Joes
4 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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PyrateMate (6) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mild to Medium | Medium | Mild to Medium | Very Pleasant |
Aye, My memory of the original which was my first tin tobacco. Then several years ago I was gifted the contents of a 40+ year old tin. The gifter said that it was unopened prior to sending it to me. I mentioned some in some of the forums how much I liked it when it was in circulation. When it first arrived I bought it back as I used distilled water and it came back very nicely. I have the rare opportunity to have been able to compare the new and the original. The tin note on the original and the Match were very similar. The Match blend has a courser cut than the ribbon cut of the original. The new tin note has a similar aroma crisp, and sweet. It lights easily and the taste reminded me of the original. Since I've been smoking the Match it has become my go to when I wish to sit back and enjoy a very goo smoke. Do I miss the original, I sure do!! As long as it is available I will continue to order. Give it a try if you have not had the pleasure yet!! Puff On me Hearties, Puff On!
Pipe Used: Various.
Age When Smoked: 40+ for the original new for the Match
Purchased From: Pipes and Cigars
3 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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BROBS (67) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mild | Medium to Strong | Medium | Very Pleasant |
I have never had the pleasure of trying the original Flying Dutchman, but this version is something tasty with a great room note. I found my bulk purchase to be on the moist side, which makes it burn a little hot in the pipe. However I dried a bowl overnight, and this problem was mostly gone. Oddly enough it didn't bite either way. The flavor is fairly light, and I can taste the "herbal" quality that so many note. The aftertaste is of this, and it increases as you smoke. To me this herbal taste is increased due to the fermented taste of the cavendish and the overall moisture of the tobacco. The room note is amazing.. in some ways similar to Sir Walter Raleigh aromatic but much smoother and less smoky. It's really like nothing else. Produces a large amount of smoke. Overall I think this could be a 4 star tobacco for me if it would just come at a more reasonable moisture level. I have noticed this with Sutliff products, they almost have an oily quality that is hard to dry. It does tend to leave some dottle for me unless I'm careful (and I usually smoke to ash) but with careful packing and tamping this is not an issue.
Pipe Used: Various briars
Age When Smoked: right out of bag
Purchased From: PipesandCigars.com
3 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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D.K. (58) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Extremely Mild | None Detected | Extremely Mild (Flat) | Unnoticeable |
I must've picked up 4oz of something different than everyone else, 'cause this is fantastically average. Not only is it mildly sweet in its mediocrity, it burned hot for me. I didn't care for it at all. Reminds me a lot of Golden Extra personally. Just a hint of honeyish. Arrived with perfect moisture, smoked well, and burned even. Glad I gave it a whirl in my codger trials. I sealed about 5 or so bowls worth up in a little glass sample vial, (thanks QC department), for the future in case I want to try again.
Pipe Used: cob, meer, ebony, briar
Purchased From: Pipes and cig
2 people found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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Rustedrailsmokes (293) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mild | Mild | Mild | Pleasant |
Like many others, I never had the chance to get burned by the original from the many comments on it and here. However, a few years ago I picked up an empty large tin at a flea market since I liked the old style tin art. Like many of those old blends, at the time.. I really didn't put much thought into trying it.
I picked up a small bulk sample of the match when placing an order and put it back to try when I wanted to smoke a cob pipe which is usually my go to for aros.
The "bag note" was faintly sweet and the cut was mostly darker tobaccos with some lighter ones here and there. The moisture level seemed fine but it had "aged" in the ziplock and maybe dried out a little bit.
Easy to pack and light. Takes quickly to flame. Wants to burn hot so requires some thought as to smoking cadence. When sipped, it has a sweetish taste which I'd guess is vanilla. Towards the back half of the bowl, I pick up the "herbal taste" which is also prevalent in a fairly strong aftertaste which lingers. Room note is non offensive to the wife.
It's one of those blends to be that isn't mind-shattering but also has enough flavor to be an enjoyable smoke. I jarred up the rest and put it with the other mild aros for when I reach for a cob, but probably not something I'll buy again.
Pipe Used: Cobs
Age When Smoked: fresh from bag 2022
Purchased From: Pipes and Cigars
1 person found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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NAKBaldron (10) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mild | Medium to Strong | Medium to Full | Very Pleasant |
(3/5) Smooth consistent flavor throughout the smoke, with sweet hints of hay and flowers. Pleasant room notes that don’t linger too long. Pairs well with water, but coffee overpowers the tobacco. A mild smoke, best enjoyed in the morning or early evening before a meal.
1 person found this review helpful.
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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WillBrown (137) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Medium | Medium | Medium | Pleasant to Tolerable |
This match was interesting. I never had Flying Dutchman back in the day, but had always wanted to try it. It was hard to find in the USA (at least where I was at the time). The various reviews here at TR suggest the match isn't quite what was available many years ago—nevertheless, onward I tread.
Others insist on a licorice and vanilla aspect to this baccy. My tastebuds tell me differently. The bag note had a slight berry scent. I could detect some vanilla, but I could swear to some alcohol additive. Taste wise, this perceived alcohol additive reminded me of apricot brandy. If forced, this blend will nip, so a slower cadence is required. The blend is slightly sharp and sweet. Not too pleasing on the front end, but the snork was very interesting, and somewhat unusual—it was the saving grace, for me.
I really enjoy trying matches of the old blends. I doubt this matches well with the original (again, this is based on those who had tried the original), nevertheless, there must be something left over from the original, or they wouldn't call it a match. No regrets trying this, but it's not something I'll keep in stock.
Keep on pipin'
Pipe Used: Corncob, w/medico filter
1 person found this review helpful.
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